20 Years: Afghanis

From Reuters:

“'What was the point?' Afghans rue decades of war as U.S. quits Bagram”

As American troops left their main military base in Afghanistan on Friday, marking a symbolic end to the longest war in U.S. history, locals living in the shadow of the base and in nearby Kabul were left ruing the past and bracing for what comes next. Violence has been raging throughout Afghanistan in the weeks since President Joe Biden announced troops would withdraw unconditionally by Sept. 11. With peace talks in Qatar stuttering, and roughly a quarter of the country's districts having fallen to the Taliban in recent weeks according to one study, many are concerned that chaos looms. Malek Mir, a mechanic in Bagram who saw the Soviet Army and then the Americans come and go, said he had was left with a deep sense of sadness at the futility of a foreign presence. "They came with bombing the Taliban and got rid of their regime - but now they have left when the Taliban are so empowered that they will take over any time soon," he said. "What was the point of all the destruction, killing and misery they brought us? I wish they had never come."

More than 3,500 foreign troops have been killed in a two- decade war, which has claimed over 100,000 civilians since 2009 alone, according to United Nations records. Some, however, say the presence of foreign troops distorted Afghanistan's economy and that it is time for the country to stand on its own. "The Americans leave a legacy of failure, they've failed in containing the Taliban or corruption," said Sayed Naqibullah, a shop owner in Bagram. "A small percentage of Afghans got so rich, while the vast majority still live with extreme poverty. "In a way, we're happy they've gone ... We're Afghans and we'll find our way." In the nearby capital, the news was a fresh reminder of the growing panic that has been gripping many parts of Afghan society, particularly in urban areas, since Biden announced the withdrawal in April. "All the people are worried that if foreign forces leave Afghanistan, the Taliban will take over. Then what will we do?" asked Zumarai Wafa, a Kabul shopkeeper. Wafa and others described a slump in business and signs of many urban residents trying to flee the country, with hundreds lined up outside embassies seeking visas.

Medical student Muzhda, 22, who asked to be identified by only one name for security reasons, said her family had decided to leave the country because of the deterioration in security. She said she wondered what future awaited women if the Taliban came back to power and restricted access to education for women, as they did during their previous time in power. The Taliban say they have changed and that they will make provisions for women's rights in line with cultural traditions and religious rules. Still, Muzhda said she feels bereft and let down by the American departure. "The withdrawal of foreign troops in the current situation is irrational," she said. "It is now clear that the Americans came here for their own purposes, not to help and cooperate with Afghanistan." "I'm very sad and disappointed, I had many dreams that will not come true."

^ After 20 years the US and our Allies have only accomplished 2 things in Afghanistan: killing Bin Ladin (who was actually hiding in plain view in Pakistan) and giving the Taliban 20 years to rearm, resupply and grow stronger in numbers. While I know it is right for America and the rest of the world to finally leave Afghanistan it means thousands upon thousands of Afghani women will be beaten and killed by the Taliban for waiting basic civil rights and anyone who helped the West will also be beaten and killed by the Taliban. I believe the Taliban will take over all of Afghanistan within 6 months after September 11, 2021. Of course Afghanistan will not only have to deal with the collapse (for a 3^rd time) of the country and also the Taliban, but also ISIS which also operates in the country. If I was Afghani I would flee to Pakistan or another country (even though many would have already done that after the 1979 Soviet Invasion and the 1996 Taliban takeover.) While there is a slim chance of America coming back (the way we did in Iraq) I wouldn’t gold my breath. ^

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/what-was-point-afghans-rue-decades-war-us-quits-bagram-2021-07-03/